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Guy Debord Shorts Says #NoWarWithIran‏ @cranstonl1972 12h12 hours ago
Guy Debord Shorts Says #NoWarWithIran Retweeted Eric Steinberg
Which has what to do with gerrymandering? Again, I agree: gerrymandering is bad. But it didn't elect trump
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Eric Steinberg @ergomatic
Replying to @cranstonl1972
Your analysis is extremely short-sighted. You know there's a federal investigation going on, right?
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 11h11 hours ago
Gerrymandering
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JUSTIN COPP  🍕& 🌹& 🐈‏ @jxc 10h10 hours ago
Which electoral disctrict borders were redrawn in order to affect the outcome of the presidential election? Do you have a before and after map?
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 10h10 hours ago
If I remember correctly Russian hackers created a new state called "Wisconsin" and didn't tell Clinton about it
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 10h10 hours ago
extremely devilish of them to make it one of the most important states to win, too. all without anybody noticing
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
You guys are tools. You seriously don't think drawing an equitable map wouldn't affect federal outcomes? I'm tempted to say that you don't care about black folks....typical chickenshits too scared to use real names on twatter
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 9h9 hours ago
for the *presidential election*? no, I don't think that would change things, because that's not how presidential elections work.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
Conditions on the ground determine outcomes. That's how things work.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
Yes and the conditions on the ground are neoliberal economics don't work
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
And here it is- a "performative socialist" for real.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
I'm not a socialist, but socialists are better than you
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
I am a socialist- and you are a neocon, trying to masquerade as a BernieBro.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
You supported Hillary Clinton
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
Yes I did- and you didn't. And here we are. Thanks, again, for nothing.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
Yes you did, which makes you a neocon
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
Project much? Damn, son. You must really hate black folks.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
"folks" You're white
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
You're whiter.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 9h9 hours ago
^ Neocon Democrat thinks he's an honorary non-white person (surprise!)
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 9h9 hours ago
I'll let my voting record speak for me. Your analysis sucks and so do you. If you were really interested in the common wealth, you would support unity and equity. But instead, you see elections as a forum for your tantrums.
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Graham Clark‏ @MagnumMiserium 7h7 hours ago
Why would I support unity with you? We want different things For that matter, why would you support unity with me? I know when you say unity you mean the left obeying you, but if we pretend you mean what you say, why would you?
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 7h7 hours ago
Hey, I'm just here to destroy Trimp. Clearly, you have other plans.
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 7h7 hours ago
See this is where I have a hard time taking your "[people who aren't me] don't care about [groups unlike me]!" sanctimony - *you* will be fine without Trump (and even with him, let's be honest). The problems that face people unlike you go deeper than Trump.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 7h7 hours ago
stahp already. If you were really interested in effecting change, you'd vote for a viable candidate. Bernie, for all his charms, ain't it.
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ImmiseratedSlob‏ @IsobelSedbusk 7h7 hours ago
That's unknowable, at this point. What is known for a fact is that Hillary Clinton wasn't.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 7h7 hours ago
absent some Russian fuckery, she would have won.
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ImmiseratedSlob‏ @IsobelSedbusk 7h7 hours ago
Well, that's certainly the line that HRC has been pushing for the last year and a half. I don't buy it.
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 7h7 hours ago
I'm curious what "Russian fuckery" he can point to. So far, there hasn't been anything beyond some facebook ads that they can't even prove were seen by more than a handful of people.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 7h7 hours ago
waitaminnit- are you saying the Mueller probe is a "witch hunt"?
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 7h7 hours ago
Nope, I am not! Bad guess.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 6h6 hours ago
So you concede, then, that there just might be something to the idea that Russia interfered in our election?
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 6h6 hours ago
Do you even understand what the Mueller probe is about? It's not about whether Russia changed our ballots, it's about whether the president did something illegal (which he almost certainly did). Russia running facebook ads that seven people saw did not sway the election.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 6h6 hours ago
ACTUALLY. There are a whole host of things on Mueller's plate- money laundering, foreign influence, public corruption etc etc. Nobody, not even me, thinks that ballot tampering is part of that mix. If you can't see how gerrymandering enabled and amplified those efforts, then....
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 6h6 hours ago
Wait hold on. Did you really just 'actually' me to say what I said?
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 5h5 hours ago
I did. I inferred from "curious to what....he can point to" that you doubt the efficacy or legitimacy of the Mueller probe. I don't doubt either: I think charges will be brought against Donad Trimp. Whether he's successfully prosecuted is another question.
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terrence cloth‏ @jaubert_moniker 5h5 hours ago
I doubt the efficacy but I said that because you explicitly claimed Russian meddling lost hillary the election, and I want to know specifically by what processes you think that is the case
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 4h4 hours ago
Okay, o wizened sages. I'm saying there's a power structure in place that has been co-opted. This power is at the state level- the US Congress. I think you guys haven't thought this through.
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ImmiseratedSlob‏ @IsobelSedbusk 4h4 hours ago
The U.S. Congress is part of the federal government. It is not state level.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 4h4 hours ago
The GOP stays in power because congressional districts are drawn to suppress Democratic votes. Is there some other word for that? You really are quite dumb.
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ImmiseratedSlob‏ @IsobelSedbusk 3h3 hours ago
Yes, the GOP stays in power in the U.S. House & in state legislatures through gerrymandering. However, the Senate, Governorships, & Presidency are not affected.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 3h3 hours ago
That's just plain stupid. Of course they're affected- one power structure begets another.
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ImmiseratedSlob‏ @IsobelSedbusk 3h3 hours ago
No, it simply doesn't. When offices are elected through statewide vote totals, then it doesn't matter whether the House & local legislative districts are drawn fairly or unfairly. I don't know how that could be any clearer.
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Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 3h3 hours ago
You're being wilfully stupid. Ever hear about the state of Florida? Where local pols have a deathgrip on every election, state local and federal?
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JUSTIN COPP  🍕& 🌹& 🐈‏ @jxc

Replying to @ergomatic @IsobelSedbusk and 

Do you... do you think local politicians in Florida flipped the presidential election results? In 2016? (In 2000, it was actually the federal Supreme Court that did it.)

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   Eric Steinberg‏ @ergomatic 2h2 hours ago
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   No, you ninny- I'm saying the GOP has a chokehold, and it all starts with the House.
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   JUSTIN COPP  🍕& 🌹& 🐈‏ @jxc 2h2 hours ago
   The House of Representatives did not decide the 2016 presidential election.
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