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Trayvon Martin.
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Christopher Cervini.
August 8 at 9:19am
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Gary Sweitzer
Who? Lol
August 8 at 9:34am
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David Hockemeyer
Looks like race baiting to me. Shame.
August 8 at 9:55am
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James Schooler
Baiting? Perhaps just people making statements. It's up to the reader to "read into" the statements.
August 8 at 9:57am
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David Hockemeyer
What's the statement?
August 8 at 9:58am
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James Schooler
The statement is, to every man an answer.
August 8 at 10:00am
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David Hockemeyer
Oh, not sure why I didn't see that.
August 8 at 10:01am
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James Schooler
One person made a point, then another person made a counter-point, etc. Sort of an eclectic debate.
August 8 at 10:03am
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David Hockemeyer
Hmmm. Alrighty then.
August 8 at 10:06am
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Ruthie Levin
Pain. Deep deep pain.
August 8 at 10:39am
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Barbara Steinberg
Amadou Diallo
August 8 at 10:46am
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Johanna Rauhala
Mirror neurons.
August 8 at 10:52am
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Oscar Grant
August 8 at 11:57am
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David Hockemeyer
Very unfortunate, but If you watch the Oscar Grant videos, he would not have been shot had he followed the Po Po's orders. The other kids sitting there that followed the Police officers orders walked away. Sad situation for sure.
August 8 at 12:24pm
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Eric Steinberg
Shame on you, David, for your strenuous support of white supremacy. I posted Trayvon's name up there because I, for one, won't let this shit slide.
August 8 at 1:17pm
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Ruthie Levin
love you Eric
August 8 at 1:18pm
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Eric Steinberg
aw!
August 8 at 1:19pm
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David Hockemeyer
I don't support white supremacy, you must be high on something Eric. Wow.
August 8 at 1:59pm
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David Hockemeyer
Excuse me, but Mr. Zimmerman was hispanic. Again, the race baiting continues.
August 8 at 2:02pm
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David Hockemeyer
I don't support Mexican Supremacy either, just in case your were wondering.
August 8 at 2:03pm
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Eric Steinberg
thats a lie, David. Calling out racism is not "race baiting". Zimmerman is not the issue; institutional racism is. And no, Im not high at the moment: are you holding?
August 8 at 2:19pm
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I'll share.
August 8 at 2:19pm
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Ruthie Levin
LOL
August 8 at 2:21pm
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David Hockemeyer
And yes it is. I haven't seen you "calling out" others when perceived racism has occurred. Example: the three black kids that tried to kill the white kid on the bus the other day. Where is the outrage?
August 8 at 2:22pm
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David Hockemeyer
There was not one single bit of evidence produced in court of racism in the Martin trial. So where is your reference? You can't just spew that crap without something to back it up.
August 8 at 2:24pm
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David I got your back! Dumb damn people!
August 8 at 2:25pm
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I don't think they are dumb Kathy, they are just dyed in the wool progressive liberals. That's how they roll.
August 8 at 2:26pm
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For sure maybe they should research before they open their empty heads! Empty heads Rattle!
August 8 at 2:28pm
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Put up the damn card Eric! Seems you are racist. What you see in others is what you are! Errrrr! Lol
August 8 at 2:30pm
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Eric Steinberg
noap, false equivalency. Show me where an innocent white teen has been murdered with impunity, and no consequences. Again, Zimm is not the issue- the institutional racism is.
August 8 at 2:34pm
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Eric Steinberg
Please dont take this the wrong way, Kathy, but: you're an idiot. "I'm rubber, you're glue" is not a valid argument.
August 8 at 2:39pm
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David Hockemeyer
Racism will be with us forever. It's unfortunate that some are racist. Those people are just ignorant. But when people like Sharpton and Jackson make a living by being racist and race baiters, well I have a problem with that. That's the institutional racism we should be worried about.
August 8 at 2:39pm
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It is funny how Sharpton and Jackson pick their battles. Either you fight every battle or you fight none.
August 8 at 3:32pm
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Thanks Eric! As I said earlier what you see in others is yourself! Empty heads rattle Mr. Eric!!!!!
August 8 at 3:32pm
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Eric Steinberg
no. Revs Sharpton and Jackson have both worked their entire lives to protect the rights of all Americans. To call either men racist proves only that you bought Lee Atwater's lies, hook line and sinker.
August 8 at 3:36pm
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Eric you damn cry baby! Poor me poor me! I'm sure you are on the floor kicking your legs also!
August 8 at 3:39pm
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Now that's the funniest thing I've heard in a while Eric. You've lost all credibility on the issue supporting those criminals. You're out of touch mi Amigo. I don't recall reading anything from Lee Atwater. Those criminals invented the grievance industry. Remarkable.
August 8 at 3:42pm
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Oh Eric don't take me wrong either your a damn fool!
August 8 at 3:42pm
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Eric Steinberg
further: no matter how many conservatards try to flip the meaning of "racist", you will still look like fools doing so. Who formulated the "Southern Strategy"? Who seeks to disenfranchise Americans with bullshit "voter ID" acts? Who plays gerrymander games to keep nonwhites out of power? Who tries to keep women under the thumb by legislating morality? The GOP and Teabaggers make me want to puke: and are UnAmerican.
August 8 at 3:44pm
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David Hockemeyer
You're off topic now. But I understand the logic.
August 8 at 3:46pm
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Eric Steinberg
David, if you dont know the role Atwater played in demonizing Sbarpton, then you are farther out of your depth than I thought.
August 8 at 3:46pm
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You make me want to puke! You damn racist!
August 8 at 3:46pm
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Eric Steinberg
*Sharpton. Tawana Brawley. Look it up.
August 8 at 3:47pm
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David Hockemeyer
I didn't say I was ignorant of Atwater. But that doesn't have anything to do with me. I think for myself Eric.
August 8 at 3:47pm
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Yeah Eric! To David's comment!
August 8 at 3:48pm
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Eric Steinberg
and Kathy: you sure showed me who's boss. I bow to your superior rhetoric.
August 8 at 3:48pm
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Seems to me Eric your racists against whites! Shame on you!
August 8 at 3:49pm
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Boss of what! Showing that your racist!
August 8 at 3:50pm
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Get on your knees Eric!
August 8 at 3:53pm
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David Hockemeyer
Tawana Brawley. Funny you should mention that name. One of the reason's Sharpton is such a pig. He jumps on board to gain money and popularity, only to find out she's lying like a rug. Then he doesn't apologize when the truth comes out. Still hasn't. What a disgrace. Why would you even mention that, makes you look like you don't really know what is going on?
August 8 at 4:10pm
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Hey David! He probably believes every damn thing Obamashithouse says also!
August 8 at 4:14pm
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Eric Steinberg
so Kathy, lemme guess...you support White Power, don't you?
August 8 at 4:28pm
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Eric Steinberg
as usual, David, you've got a little less than half the story. Tawana Brawley was not lying. Your quick scan of Wikipedia did not reveal Atwater's role.
August 8 at 4:30pm
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David Hockemeyer
You have got to be kidding me? Enlighten me, please.
August 8 at 4:31pm
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No not at all Eric! I don't see color!
August 8 at 4:36pm
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When a white person commits a crime whites don't act like fools!
August 8 at 4:40pm
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I'm not going on the racist crap with you! I see you want to throw out the racist card.
August 8 at 4:42pm
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Phil Francois
Are there instances where black adults shot black teenagers or vice versa? They don't seem to get the same air play.
August 8 at 8:23pm
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David Hockemeyer
Boy that's for sure Phil. Just look to the new Detroit, Chicago.
August 9 at 6:35am
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Hey Eric What about OJ Simpson?
August 9 at 6:41am
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Eric Steinberg
Why do you think that is, Phil? Do you guys still believe in bullshit like "black on black crime"?
August 9 at 6:50am
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David Hockemeyer
Hey Eric, have you seen what's going on in Chicago?
August 9 at 6:52am
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Eric Steinberg
I dont care about fitting your narrative. You know killing Trayvon was murder. You know that attempts to assassinate the character of a dead teenager are immoral. Why do you think its acceptable to push a racist agenda on the back of Trayvon?
August 9 at 6:54am
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Eric Steinberg
There is murder every day, in every part of the world. Yet ignorant people are passing judgement on shit they know nothing about.
August 9 at 6:55am
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Eric Steinberg
Must feel good, pushing Trayvon around.
August 9 at 6:56am
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Eric Steinberg
Must make y'all feel morally superior.
August 9 at 6:56am
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Eric Steinberg
I, however, saw a good kid, the kind that listens to his parents, get shot to death for NOTHING. except to satisfy the bullshit macho fantasies of some dickwad.
August 9 at 6:59am
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Barbara Steinberg
Pont #1-I strongly doubt Trayvon would have caught Zimmerman's eye had he not been black..Point #2- He was told to not follow him, yet he did.. Point #3 Trayvon was unarmed. This kid was murdered
August 9 at 7:01am
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Eric Steinberg
I appreciate that, Barbara, and its all true: but to me the most important thing is that Trayvon's killer was not even going to be arrested, until half the town started to make dissatisfied rumblings. Separate but equal MY ASS.
August 9 at 7:08am
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David Hockemeyer
I happen to agree with your last post Eric. You guys are very interesting. Everyone thinks this death was a terrible tragedy. I don't know anyone who wished this had happened. I have kids, I feel terrible for the family. But I'll just say this. Since we are Monday morning quarterbacking, Why didn't Trayvon just walk away, and say hey man I'm just walking to my Dad's house. Keep moving. But no, he winds up on top of Zimmerman, bashing Zimmerman's head into the ground. It's called self defense. You guys are obviously not happy with the trial, but they have spoken so move on for Christ's sake.
August 9 at 7:11am
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Barbara Steinberg
Exactly.. The cops never would have even arrested him.. He had no blood on his head the first pics I saw of him and then the story changed that Trayvon beat him up and then there was blood.. Obviously Trayvon was not entitled to the same protection under Florida law as the murderwas
August 9 at 7:11am
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David Hockemeyer
Go back and check the trial record. I know you'd rather not live in the real world, but that's the way it is.
August 9 at 7:13am
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Eric Steinberg
David, you can believe the bullshit spewed by defense lawyers if you want. Makes no difference. The worst that would have happened to Trayvon's killer is that he would have received a beating. To say that he feared for his life is complete crap.
August 9 at 7:14am
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Eric Steinberg
So to shoot this kid in that situation is morally reprehensible.
August 9 at 7:15am
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David Hockemeyer
Ok Eric, you forgot to tell me you were there. Come on man.
August 9 at 7:15am
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Eric Steinberg
No, I wont "move on". Not as long as people are taking shits on Trayvons character just so they can feel good about his death.
August 9 at 7:17am
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Barbara Steinberg
Zimmerman is a violent guy. Ask his wife who he beats up on occassion.. Trayvon was NOT handled "with justice for all". From Zimmerman, the police and the judge.
August 9 at 7:18am
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David Hockemeyer
Ok, well that's why we have the courts. I'm out. You guys have a great day.
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Gereg Jones Muller
After reading a fair bit on it all, I have grave doubts that young Martin was a sterling citizen. That doesn't make Zimmerman a good guy. And it doesn't mean I feel good about his death.
August 9 at 7:34am
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Exactly Gereg.
August 9 at 7:38am
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Eric Steinberg
No, exactly WRONG. The stupid shit Trayvon posted means precisely zero. It doesnt matter whether or not he was a "thug". What matters is that he was innocent of any crime, and yet still got shot, and it meant nothing to the "good people" of Sanford.
August 9 at 7:43am
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Eric Steinberg
I guarantee you, I've done far worse in my life than Trayvon ever did in his.
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Gereg Jones Muller
Eric, dear friend, we'll never know just innocent he was that night. That's part of the tragedy of his death. All we'll know beyond the shadow of a doubt (IMNTFHO) is that Zimmerman was unqualified to carry a firearm, and did not, in fact, tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about whatever went down.
I'm not thinking of the victim's posts - although those don't make me want to hang with the guy - but hadn't he also been suspended from school for violent behaviour? There are so few innocents in this world, Eric; I don't get the impression the Martin lad was one of them.
Which still doesn't mean I think he deserved to get shot; or that Zimmerman deserved to get off. His incompetence to handle a weapon safely earns him a manslaughter conviction in my private court. Whatever suspicions I may have beyond that, no living witnesses seem to have emerged to verify or disprove them.
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Goodness! Look at Trayvon's past! Look at the entire picture. Open your eyes! So OJ was innocent also.? It's foolish! As I said yesterday its just a reason for people to be foolish. Eric you had no come back on why the whites didn't act like fools about OJ.
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Ask yourself Eric if your life was in danger would you do the same as Zimmerman? I would! Look at it on different levels! You see black or white and absolutely no gray! Silly rabbit!
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Lol on your post Eric about black on black! Dude are you under a rock or what? Are you like a bear in hibernation? I seen a post not long ago where Bill Cosby was talking about how blacks were killing blacks and all the non sense. Did you miss that also? Look at the crime rate and the statistics. Come on get your damn head out of the sand. Do you see many white gangs? Blacks ARE KILLING THEIR OWN. Maybe you should change that and get off of this soap box. Speak of that instead of this foolish crap.
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Eric Steinberg
Kathy, your opinion doesn't count because you are a girl.
August 9 at 12:03pm
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Eric Steinberg
Gereg, we do know several things about Trayvon: he was not accused, or even suspected of any crime.
August 9 at 12:04pm
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Eric Steinberg
Further, my point is that speculations about Trayvon's character are completely irrelevant, and serve only the racist agenda that supports bullshit laws like "stand your ground".
August 9 at 12:07pm
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Eric Steinberg
I put his name in my status because there is no justice for him, at least not yet.
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Gereg Jones Muller
Eric, I hope you know I'm no racist; and in Zimmerman's background there's evidence to suggest that he isn't either (considering a former business partner, and his own mixed-ethnic heritage): but I will agree that I'd hate to be a young black man subj
ected to the judical system of any southern state (at least). And so far as your comment that there's been no justice for him... No. And there never will be. It bites.
August 9 at 12:16pm
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Eric Steinberg
Yes. I actually doubt that Zimmerman is racist; I've always maintained that the issue is the law, not his attitudes.
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